John SPENCER

John Spencer - England - International Rugby Union Career for England.

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Date: 21 February 1969

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    • POSITION
      Centre
    • DATE OF BIRTH
      Sunday, 10 August 1947
    • PLACE OF BIRTH
      Staincliffe, Yorkshire, England.
  • INTERNATIONAL
  • England
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John SPENCER - England - International Rugby Union Career for England.

Rugby is mainly about the characters who grace the game and the images those characters provide, if only in the memory. One of the most enduring images of the early 1970s was the sight of two Nordic gods in white shirts, flaxen locks flowing in the misty winter air, careering their way across the rugby fields of Britain like a couple of overenthusiastic schoolboys, playing each game like it was their last. They were David Duckham and John Spencer, two of the finest rugby talents of theirs and indeed any other era. Though similar in appearance, the two were different characters - Duckham the driven one, all intensity and commitment, Spencer the nice guy, the joker and some would say, the "nearly man" of rugby. They also differed in that Spencer's time at the top was relatively brief whilst Duckham enjoyed a long and more successful career, but while they were together the pair produced some true moments of brilliance. However, Duckham and Spencer were no different to any other pair of backs in that without the ball in their hands, they were powerless.

 

England's forwards in this era never dominated their opponents in the same way that later sides could, and were therefore unable to supply the likes of Duckham and Spencer with the possession that their talent demanded. This fact seemed to be lost on those detractors who gleefully poured scorn on the pair whenever they failed to produce the much hoped for magic. Spencer was 21 and Duckham just a year older when they made their debuts in the same match in 1969 - a 17-15 defeat by Ireland in Dublin which saw Duckham score his first try. England then beat France 22-8 before taking on Scotland at Twickenham. England won the Calcutta Cup 8-3, with Duckham scoring another two tries, the second of which saw him combine superbly with Spencer. Sadly, England were overwhelmed by Wales in their final match of the season and lost 30-9. However, later in the year both men had the consolation of being part of the side that beat South Africa at Twickenham 11-8, a victory made possible by tries from forwards Peter Larter and John Pullin.

 

Shortly afterwards the Barbarians selectors decided to give the fans a bonus by pairing Spencer and Duckham in the traditional Christmas fixture against Leicester, and as Nigel Starmer Smith would recall in his official history of the famous club, they did not disappoint: "Nine Barbarian tries had the crowd baying for more, with David Duckham and John Spencer giving one of their classic demonstrations of attacking centre-threequarter play. Spencer's unselfishness and creative ability helped his England partner, Duckham, to use his acceleration, pace and sense of timing to snap up a record equalling five tries." Both were soon in action again for the Barbarians against the touring South Africans, a side whom John and David had both enjoyed success over in the colours of England. John helped set up Dixie Duggan for a try in the first half and nearly scored himself in the second when he combined with Duggan and Mike Gibson, but put his foot into touch and South Africa eventually won 21-12. (Jon Collins)

 


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1970 - 1971

 

The year of 1970 saw both Spencer and Duckham again play in all four matches of the Five Nations, but it was a season of unfulfilled promise, despite England having adopted a more professional approach to training and selection. The campaign began promisingly enough with a 9-3 victory over Ireland at Twickenham before England took on Wales at the same ground. England took the game to their opponents in the first half, with Spencer and John Novak helping put Duckham over for another try. Novak then crossed the line himself to make the score 13-3 at half-time and put Wales seemingly out of sight. However, in the second half the men in red seemed to gain new inspiration when Gareth Edwards left the field injured to be replaced by Ray "Chico" Hopkins. Hopkins, who was destined to play only one match for Wales, sent JPR Williams over for a try and then scored one himself to put his side ahead by 14-13. Barry John, who had scored a try before Edwards went off, then delivered the coup de grace with a long range drop goal to seal the game 17-13. After blowing their best chance of beating Wales for years, England then slumped to a 14-5 loss to Scotland, though John did score the try of the season when he received possession in his own half, dummied a pass to his winger and then sped the length of the field to touch down. The campaign ended in ignominious fashion with a 35-13 hammering by France in Paris, the most points England had ever conceded in an international. However, John was able to register his second and last try in addition to a score by Bob Taylor.

 

The 1971 Five Nations produced modest returns in the form of a 14-14 draw with France and a 9-6 triumph over Ireland, but England played poorly in their Centenary celebrations, losing to both Scotland and a Presidents XV by large margins, the latter proving to be John's last international appearance. However, Lions coach Carwyn James acknowledged Spencer's talent by selecting him for the tour to New Zealand along with Duckham. Unfortunately, John suffered a poor tour largely due to his performance in a game against Counties and Thames Valley in Pukehoe (birthplace of Jonah Lomu). Switched to the wing as an experiment, Spencer missed several try scoring opportunities and only crossed the line once. Despite the fact that it was an unimportant game played in very poor conditions, John was severely mauled by the press which affected his confidence and his subsequent performances. Unlike Duckham, who played in three of the four games against New Zealand and was regarded as one of the successes of the tour, Spencer did not play in the test series and returned home with his reputation diminished.

 

Gareth Edwards, a man responsible for much of the torment heaped upon England sides in the early 1970s, regarded the two men as friends and was angered by their treatment by the press, writing in his autobiography: "At one stage David Duckham and John Spencer had almost the superstar image, the blond duo. The English press built them up, perhaps because they needed a couple of dashing heroes so badly. In the eventual killing off of Duckham and Spencer the press, who had made them, were unforgivable. Some rugby writers have the dangerous notion that all the true judgement comes from off the field. John Spencer, in particular, was written out of the game." Despite his harsh treatment by the press and premature departure from the international scene, Spencer continued to play the game he loved to the best of his ability for several more years. He went on to captain his spiritual guardians, the Barbarians, on numerous occasions, and one of his best performances came when he scored three tries in their 60-15 triumph over Newport in 1973. (Jon Collins)

 


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INTERNATIONAL RUGBY CAPS FOR ENGLAND.

 

1969 v Ireland (Dublin) L 17-15 (FN)

1969 v France (Twickenham) W 22-8 (FN)
1969 v Scotland (Twickenham) W 8-3 (FN)
1969 v Wales (Cardiff) L 30-9 (FN)

1969 v South Africa (Twickenham) W 11-8

 

 

1970 v Ireland (Twickenham) W 9-3 (FN)
1970 v Wales (Twickenham) L 17-13 (FN)
1970 v Scotland (Murrayfield) L 14-5 (FN)

1970 v France (Colombes) L 35-13 (FN)

 

 

1971 v Wales (Cardiff) L 22-6 (FN)
1971 v Ireland (Dublin) W 9-6 (FN)
1971 v Scotland (Twickenham) L 16-15 (FN)

 

 

1971 v Scotland (Murrayfield) L 26-6 (Centenary game)

1971 v Presidents XV (Twickenham) L 28-11

Following his debut against Ireland in February
1969, John went on to play in 13 of the next 14
Internationals.

Career Record: P14, W5, L9
Test Points: 6
Tries: 2

(R) = Replacement